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	<title>Comments on: No Hammocks, No Papers [The Letters Series]</title>
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		<title>By: Bad Teachers &#124; Blog</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Teachers &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] towards students can determine how much they learn or don&#8217;t learn. In a blog post entitled &#8220;No Hammocks, No Papers&#8221; Jose Vilson, a New York City teacher, discusses everything that is wrong with teachers that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] towards students can determine how much they learn or don&#8217;t learn. In a blog post entitled &#8220;No Hammocks, No Papers&#8221; Jose Vilson, a New York City teacher, discusses everything that is wrong with teachers that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, note well, CK, this is an amalgamation of different characters in my blog, not just one ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, note well, CK, this is an amalgamation of different characters in my blog, not just one ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7551</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for their comments. 

JD, this part:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d probably ask for clearer definitions of competency since 90% of all teachers in this country get satisfactory ratings throughout the year (which either means we have a lot more competence teachers than the edu-deformers admit to or the people who administer these ratings don’t always know how to measure teacher effectiveness, a discussion for another time). I’d increase the amount each school gets in their budget so they’re less tempted to cut out highly competent vets who can then mentor younger students, producing more whole school communities rather than the current schema.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

was really an indictment of &quot;evaluators&quot; more than teachers. While I agree with your statement completely, I also know that eventually, a little change is necessary to preserve teaching as a whole. As you know in this blog, I&#039;ve been more critical of admins than teachers because the national argument is in reverse. But after a while, it&#039;s easy to get frustrated at both parties and we need to find good solutions for this. I know you see the premise, but I just needed to put that out there. &#039;Tis all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for their comments. </p>
<p>JD, this part:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d probably ask for clearer definitions of competency since 90% of all teachers in this country get satisfactory ratings throughout the year (which either means we have a lot more competence teachers than the edu-deformers admit to or the people who administer these ratings don’t always know how to measure teacher effectiveness, a discussion for another time). I’d increase the amount each school gets in their budget so they’re less tempted to cut out highly competent vets who can then mentor younger students, producing more whole school communities rather than the current schema.</p></blockquote>
<p>was really an indictment of &#8220;evaluators&#8221; more than teachers. While I agree with your statement completely, I also know that eventually, a little change is necessary to preserve teaching as a whole. As you know in this blog, I&#8217;ve been more critical of admins than teachers because the national argument is in reverse. But after a while, it&#8217;s easy to get frustrated at both parties and we need to find good solutions for this. I know you see the premise, but I just needed to put that out there. &#8216;Tis all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7550</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I get the sentiment... but...

Tenure = due process

It&#039;s at 3 years here. Make it shorter? 2 years? Or lengthen it? 5-6 years?

But both? Not possible.

Tell you what. I am against playing with it. Against tinkering. Against nibbling around the edges. Because once the door is open, we could find ourselves in serious trouble pretty quickly.

If you see someone, and you wonder who granted them tenure... aren&#039;t you really wondering about who granted them tenure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I get the sentiment&#8230; but&#8230;</p>
<p>Tenure = due process</p>
<p>It&#8217;s at 3 years here. Make it shorter? 2 years? Or lengthen it? 5-6 years?</p>
<p>But both? Not possible.</p>
<p>Tell you what. I am against playing with it. Against tinkering. Against nibbling around the edges. Because once the door is open, we could find ourselves in serious trouble pretty quickly.</p>
<p>If you see someone, and you wonder who granted them tenure&#8230; aren&#8217;t you really wondering about who granted them tenure?</p>
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		<title>By: -ck</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7549</link>
		<dc:creator>-ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JV,

As a teacher at a suburban high school in Maryland, I can definitely attest to the feelings you&#039;re generating here. I often experience these same emotions when I see an incompetent teacher in the system, much less in my own hallway. 

So, props for you in writing this letter. Now only if the adm could read it (without getting aggravated at you).

I need to find a teacher to write a letter to in my own school.

-ck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JV,</p>
<p>As a teacher at a suburban high school in Maryland, I can definitely attest to the feelings you&#8217;re generating here. I often experience these same emotions when I see an incompetent teacher in the system, much less in my own hallway. </p>
<p>So, props for you in writing this letter. Now only if the adm could read it (without getting aggravated at you).</p>
<p>I need to find a teacher to write a letter to in my own school.</p>
<p>-ck</p>
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		<title>By: Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really love wimpy.... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really love wimpy&#8230;. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne V</title>
		<link>http://thejosevilson.com/2009/11/16/the-letters-series-no-hammocks-no-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-7546</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hammock. I wish I had time to use it! There are a few details I might change to describe folks I&#039;ve known in schools. It is a crime how they can turn what *should* be an amazing subject into assigned boredom. Just let me get my hands on that class!!! But, not until someone&#039;s retirement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hammock. I wish I had time to use it! There are a few details I might change to describe folks I&#8217;ve known in schools. It is a crime how they can turn what *should* be an amazing subject into assigned boredom. Just let me get my hands on that class!!! But, not until someone&#8217;s retirement&#8230;</p>
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