Tell Your Fucking Mexican Friends To Get The Fuck Out of Shenandoah - The Jose Vilson

Tell Your Fucking Mexican Friends To Get The Fuck Out of Shenandoah

by Jose Vilson on May 21, 2009

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Luis Ramirez and Son

Luis Ramirez and Son

… or you’ll be laying next to him.

That’s what Luis Ramirez’ murderers told his friends after killing him. And that’s why this post-racial talk is simply pure nonsense. I get it: we have a Black president, and we have the first____ and the first ____ in ____ and _____. While I get tired of the “first” attribute when it comes to racial achievement, it has its place. We’re only a few decades from the Civil Rights Movement and a century and a half from the abolition of slavery, an institution that this country’s had for five centuries give or take (and still exists in different countries). We’re only a few decades from Latinos officially being recognized as people in this country that existed, and only a few decades from Japanese internment camps springing up in the West.

So I have no such fancies about extreme racial progress in this country. We got a long way to go.

But when incidents like this happen, it’s just a reminder of how long we have to go. Even at my job, the xenophobia is rather atrocious. “Those damn Filipinos taking our jobs, they’re not better than me!” or “You look like a Mexican, orale guay!” Some of these Dominicans have nerve! Let anyone call these people (children and adults) Platanos or Dumb-in-a-Cans or “only good for beisbol and curvy, submissive women” and those necks will snap. Meanwhile, it’s OK to refer to others who’ve immigrated from a foreign land as hicks, immigrants, and “hard workers meant to do this.” Actually, sons and daughters of immigrants who are anti-immigration irk me. The whole crabs-in-a-barrel mentality irks me.

Then again, so do humans. Check this:

… this was a pretty clear-cut case of jury nullification: the weight of evidence against the accused was so powerful that it’s clear the all-white jury — like similar juries in the South during the Civil Rights struggle — was not going to convict two young white men of murdering a Mexican. Even if, as Friedman says, “the only reason he is dead is because he was Mexican.”

Prosecutors alleged that the teens baited the Ramirez into a fight with racial epithets, provoking an exchange of punches and kicks that ended with Ramirez convulsing in the street, foaming from the mouth. He died two days later in a hospital.

Piekarsky was accused of delivering a fatal kick to Ramirez’s head after he was knocked to the ground.

As they poured out of courthouse, the teens’ supporters shouted “I was right from the start” and “I’m glad the jury listened” at cameras that caught the late-night verdict.

But Gladys Limon, a spokeswoman for the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund, said the jury had sent a troubling message.

“The jurors here [are] sending the message that you can brutally beat a person, without regard to their life, and get away with it, continue with your life uninterrupted,” she said.

- Crooks and Liars, May 3rd, 2009

None of this is fair, and only one of the people who had a role in the death apologized. One can put a (gross) generalization that only 1 out of every 7 hate crime participants feels any remorse, even if it’s just to get out of a grossly inhumane situation. And to think, Luis only had 25 years to live, many of those he suffered just getting into this country and walking on a tightrope known as the illegal immigration worker program.

For his family (3 kids, at that). For himself. For a chance at a better life.

But they need to get the fuck out of Shanendoah. There’s no room for their American dream in that town.

Jose, who just wants a little more action for my satisfaction …

Kenny May 21, 2009 at 11:16 pm

This right here is why you are my boy

J.M. Holland May 21, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Damn. I love how you always come out swinging. Great post brother.

Kevin May 21, 2009 at 11:34 pm

The sad part is that when times get hard, economically, folks go after PoC that much harder.

Man, I’ve been checking out this Livejournal community set up for the company I work for. The xenophobia and hatred is so sad. Yeah, times are hard for us in retail, but now it’s become all…”fucking cheap ass Asians,” “fucking scheming Indians,” etc. Yesterday was the first day I read someone go after black folks. Something about how the poster wasn’t aware that black folks could read.

And these are people that are basically my colleagues. This is a company that prides itself on diversity.

Yeah, we have a long way to go, my friend.

Aaron May 22, 2009 at 12:00 am

Jose, you have said a mouth full. I just want to point you at a related post I read earlier this week.

The post is from the “Stuff white people do” blog and its called “Clamp down harder on non-white violence”. I don’t stand by 100% of the authors/commentators opinions because the irony of slapping a generic lable on every “white” person is just as bad as labling any other type of person. Yet, the end of the article comment about a minority being ABLE
to fight back being an unwanted game changer speaks volumes imo.

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/05/clamp-down-harder-on-non-white-violence.html

Perhaps the same is true with Luis Ramirez, he fought back and the system choose to make an example out of him by NOT bringing justice upon his attackers.

RiPPa May 22, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Being and immigrant and son of immigrants myself, I detest some of the very same people like me who fall victim to the polarization within this country on these so-called wedge issues.

Tell post racial to kiss my ass…

Villager May 22, 2009 at 7:27 pm

You bring it strong and you bring it correct. This is a powerful post. I wonder if Ramirez’ family or legal team reads these blog posts. If so, they would know that they are not alone.

peace, Villager

GI Fucking Joe August 17, 2009 at 3:24 am

Fuck all mexicans. They are killing my family and wrecking my country. Fuck all you scum bags. You are all vial pieces of fical matter that belong deep in the earth. FUCK MEXICO – GO HOME YOU SCUM BAGS

Jonathan September 20, 2009 at 10:43 pm

I really respect what you’ve wrote. I believe that we need to help our people out. I am the son of Mexican immigrants and I can say that I am extremely proud to be Mexican. Latinos need to educate themselves more and do better in school to represent their “race” in a positive way. We need to contribute to our community and bring our people forward instead of backwards.

Jose September 21, 2009 at 9:24 pm

Jonathan, and everyone else who commented (except for GI Joe). You all brought something positive to this conversation. I think it’s important for us to continue educating our youth on tolerance AND appreciation, too. We may have different cultures from what’s considered “mainstream”, but we’re just as “American” as others are.

Minos September 27, 2009 at 4:07 pm

Google LAPD’s most wanted. This is what you get with mass immigration (legal or not) from Latin America.

Jose September 27, 2009 at 4:14 pm

Counterpoint, Minos:

Check the top 10 most wanted for the country. I’d argue that list is a lot more diverse (and one of them may not even be valid).

veronica October 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Jose, hi..
a lot of the commenters on this post, are stating how proud they are of upholding their Latino ‘race’ & ‘culture’.. but if that is the case, why are their nations in free-falls, why are Latinos flooding out of countries with Latino power structures & into countries with pre-dominately White power structures (and culture)?
Latinos flood out of Central America bcuz the Latino countries are endemically corrupt & poverty-stricken, that’s not something to be proud of.. In my opinion, it should be a source of shame,.. and what makes Americans think that as the US becomes flooded with Central American immigrants, that we wont go the same way? a lot of the SouthWest already looks like a Third World country .. spend sometime in El Paso, or E.La/Eagle Rock, etc..
What are Latinos proud of?.. the corruption of Central American govts. , the failure of their nations, their criminal invasions of the US & Canada ? fix your OWN countries & then you will have a legitimate source of pride. Stop talking about the tragic ‘tightrope’ you’re walking in the US, & build a solid street to travel on in your OWN countries.
peace.

Jose October 20, 2009 at 7:02 pm

“Veronica,” frankly, poverty is faceless. Here’s one link that’ll shut your whole argument down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_poorest_places_in_the_United_States

Pretty diverse list. Amen.

Bobo October 22, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Get out of the USA you lazy shit beaner turd world scum. You come to the clean white man’s country, shit it up, pop out kids so you can get on welfare and bankrupt us, and produce nothing. You’ve destroyed the CA economy. Good job you stupid dumb as Mexican shit. Can’t make Mexico work so you have to come up here and leech off America. Soon there won’t be any America left for you to take from you rat bastard scum. And try putting your hat on the right way you piece of shit.

Mexican October 22, 2009 at 10:41 pm

Go back to England, Germany, Poland, Russia, Scotland, Iceland, Canada, and all other countries that took over USA when there were American Indian Natives and Mexicans here in the US. It belongs to us and we’re just taking back what is ours. If your “white” trace your ancestors and see that most came thru Ellis Island or some part of NY, NJ area. Now your all just hating and being fools. First you hung blacks now its the whites turn, we won’t use ropes, but Language and Culture, which white girls and boys don’t have. All ya Hataz go to hell. They should give you all a boat ride back to Europe. Fuck the Shenandoah PD & Courts for letting them boys go to jail for 6-8 months. Pinches Putos. Keep doing your Meth and rot your brains white-americans.

RIP Luis Ramirez.

Anne V October 22, 2009 at 10:41 pm

My family is less than 100 years away from their immigration papers and my first-generation grandfather is probably the most bigoted member of my family. What is it that makes people forget where they came from and hate others so much like them?

Daniel October 22, 2009 at 10:49 pm

I hope more and more Latinos go to Shenandoah and claim that piece of sh*t town as their own. Those 4 morons who got off should die and I hope all Latinos across the USA remember their faces. I hope to run into one of them on the street someday.

Daniel October 22, 2009 at 10:57 pm

I hope all Latinos remember these names: Brandon Piekarsky, Derrick Donchak, and Colin Walsh

Sharon November 7, 2009 at 9:06 pm

It is hurtful for someone to have so much hate on another race and I think that is why the US is the way it is. If anything people should know that the US drove Mexican migration into the United States. If anything, the United States fueled Mexican migration to improve their economy. Ever heard of the Bracero Program? Mexicans did jobs that white people would not be willing to do, and white people call Mexicans lazy? Why Mexicans? Because it was cheap labor. That is how the US economy grew and now people are blaming Mexicans for the economy now? Ever heard of NAFTA? Clinton promised jobs in Mexico, but in reality they drove people in Mexico out of their lands straight into poverty, so what do they do? GO TO THE UNITED STATES. Many have the belief that Mexicans come to the US for welfare which is untrue. Many are hard workers, pay taxes like everyone else, and would hardly ever accept welfare. According to the AFDC people on welfare follows:
White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3
although there is a higher percent of Blacks, there are more white people in the US! so According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare. People should do some research before accusing Mexicans/Latinos of things that are simply untrue. RIP LUIS RAMIREZ

Jose November 8, 2009 at 10:17 am

I owe everyone from “Mexican” all the way down major props. I really mean it. It’s important for me to let racists do as they need to on this forum so people see the hate firsthand, but it’s good to have that balance of those that hate and those that continue to struggle against that. Props.

shayla November 18, 2009 at 12:15 pm

There’s no escaping God. Let those bastards have their freedom, yes, they prevailed on earth; but, there is NO escaping the end. God has a way of administering His vengance on evil. Those boys think they’ve gotten away scot free, but remember good people, your soul has to have somewhere to stay and the soul never dies. Any decision made to release someone who had done evil will also NOT go unpunished.

coady November 26, 2009 at 3:18 am

what the hell is mexico doing? sitting on their arse? why do mexicans have to go to north america in the first place?

AMERICAN PRIDE December 14, 2009 at 10:00 pm

GET DE FUCKING BEANERS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THIS COUNTRY BORN WHITE AND ENGLISH SPEAKING; IF THE MEXICAN SHIT NOT WANNA LEARN OF THE AMERICAN CULTURE, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMERICAN PRIDE December 14, 2009 at 10:03 pm

GET THE FUCKING 31.000.000 SPANISH SPEAKERS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Proud Mexican December 15, 2009 at 9:01 pm

American, Pride,
Pick up a History book before speaking. It would greatly assist you in learning how “America” was founded. Maybe your statements would not be as ignorant.

GI @$&# Joe, (refuse to stoop to your low level language)
Fical? Do you mean Fecal? I would suggest you learn the proper grammar for America’s beloved language. If you are representing your race and culture I too suggest you get some prior to making any statement. Do not embarrass your race with ignorance, not a true representation of a true American.
Veronica,
We are proud of our race, ancestry and culture. We are not without issues and have never claimed to be. I was born and raised in Mexico. My mother (A Caucasian lady, funny how some white people move to Mexico to better their lives, rather than the other way around.) and father decided to expose us to both cultures. We are fortunate that we did not face poverty in Mexico but rather a wealthy life style free of corruption. My parents as well as my siblings hold degrees from both countries and have each established very successful careers. We are not a toll on society but rather and intricate part of it. Please explain to me why then would any of us renege of our heritage to make anyone happy? I can choose to live here, China or Timbuktu (so can you) yet continue to be proud of where I come from. Yes I have an education and a career yet I am not better than ANY of my fellow Latino/Hispanic brothers or sisters. Yes, we have our bad seeds but so does every nationality and country. You in the other hand may need to leave the area where you are and expand your horizons. Central America & South America have many paved streets, where one can travel. That may be why we are high in the list of most beautiful touristic places with some of the most beautiful beaches to visit. I should know I was raised in Acapulco. We welcome you to our home any day, not for your Dollars but because it’s in our hearts to do so.

Food for thought! Wishing you a good digestion!

Doug December 30, 2009 at 11:11 am

There are those that truly hate the mexicans for which they shouldnt & for the reason I say this is that mexicans are very willing to work unlike many afro-americans Ive seen in my time that just rather collect welfare & foodstamps & saying that the white man owes it to them because of the slavery they went thru,, Well thats a crock of bull crap, Slavery ended long before they was born & before thier grand daddys was born even, Mexicans want to work where a black man wants to watch work & collect from it,, Call me a racist against the black man & no other,, I do not hate the black man but I dislike what they stand for & they are the ones that truly keeps racism alive among america,, I was not a slave owner nor was my father or grandfather nor great grandfather so how do I owe them anything nor will I apoligise for something I had nothing to do with, I see them with hate towards all whites not just white americans but any white race from all over the world,, Their is many reasons why I am a racist against blacks but I dont want to kill for any of the reasons that lingers within myself, I hear time to time that there are some decent black folks out there in this world but Im 46 yrs old & have not met any yet, Ive lived in the country & city alike growing up & I have met many mexicans that was decent & hard working & was always willing to lend a helping hand out of kindness & not for profit. People should not hate the mexicans for wanting to prosper here but instead hate our government that let so many companys shut down here in the states & locate them in other countries with a big tax write off for doing so, Our government is what hurt us by giving big corperate companys a deal to locate in other countries to grow economy there for trade agreements,, Learn what direction too look before casting the blame on mexicans for our economy.

Kim December 30, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Doug, with all due respect, don’t come here and blame us Blacks for accusing you of slavery. Seriously, my heart goes out to this young man because he didn’t deserve it. But, had you met my father, your opinions of us would change. I’m sorry that you feel that Mexicans are better than us, but my parents NEVER depended upon the government for anything, so let’s make that clear. People like you try to make yourselves feel more worthy by saying false and untrue things about us ALL. My father was a victim of racism many times because he was Black, not because he wasn’t a hardworker, because he was a Black man trying to make a life for himself. I’m sorry that you’ve never met any hardworking Black men, but don’t come here and surreptitiously say that Mexicans are better than we are, go to stormfront if that’s the case. But, don’t come here and blame us for this broke down economy because the last I checked, everyone is catching hell because the GOVERNMENT wants full control of everything.

You shouldn’t dislike ALL of us for the atrocities of a few. I’m 36 years old and have met wonderful people of ALL races. I never collected welfare, don’t have children, married for 8 years to a HARDWORKING Black man, who didn’t depend on Affirmative Action. So, before you come here with that Mexicans-are-Better-than-Blacks, think about what you’re really saying because YOU haven’t met ALL Blacks, I say again. The Blacks that you’ve come in contact over the years with has really messed up your mind and warped your opinion about people you don’t know. I’m not trying to change your dislike for us, I’m only trying to enlighten you and let you know that ALL of us don’t care about slavery, but I do care when people you come here and accuse us for not being productive.

You say you dislike Black men stand for, what do you say about the Black men defending you and this country, alongside the Whites, Hispanics and Asian-Americans?

cynthia barnes January 20, 2010 at 12:21 am

WE NEED TO BUILD A GREAT WALL (AS IN CHINA) FROM THE DIRTY MEXICANS CROSSING OUR BORDERS. THEY ARE ADVANTAGE-TAKING PIECES OF MANURE THAT SHOULD BE BANISHED! THEY PRETEND TO BE STUPID AND HOW FUNNY HOW CLEVER THEY ARE WITH AMERICA’S SCREWED SYSTEM. NOW THAT I ‘M A MINORITY WHERE IS ALL MY FREE CHILD BIRTH EXPENCES,FREE GRANTS,AND COLLEGE FOR THE CHILDREN WHO’S PARENTS AND GREAT GRAND-PARENTS HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR GENERATIONS? THEY LAUGH AT US AS THEY SHOULD. MY FATHER DIED AT AN EARLY AGE AS A VETERAN. I GOT NOTHING FROM HIS TAXES AND HARD WORK IN THIS CRAP CROOKED COUNTRY! WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?

cynthia barnes January 20, 2010 at 12:50 am

I THINK IT IS A JOKE THAT NO WHERE IN THE WORLD CAN YOU CROSS A BORDER AND BE TAKEN CARE OF (AT OTHER’S EXPENCE) FOREVER. OH PITY THE POOR STUPID MEXICAN. I WOULD ESCAPE AS WELL IF I KNEW THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT WOULD GIVE ME EVERYTHING I WANTED AND TAKE CARE OF ME AND MY FUTURE GENERATIONS.(AT EVEN A VETERAN’S EXPENCE) OH LET ME WORK MY BUTT OFF JUST SO I CAN GRANT SOME OTHER (LAZY,USELESS,DISRESPECTFUL) RACE TAKE OVER. AND LAUGH IN MY FACE AND ACT AS THOUGH IT IS THEIR RIGHT! I WANT TO SAY AMERICA IS SHITE AND IF THERE IS LIFE ON MARS I HOPE THEY ARE MORE JUST AS THEY SHOULD BE! AND SCREW EARTHLINGS AND PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE AS MEXICANS SHOULD BE! AND SCREW THE HAITIANS THAT HAVE CURSED AMERICA TIL THEIR LITTLE QUAKE! VOOOODOO IS THEIR RELIGION YOU IDIOTS! AND YOU WANT TO HELP THEM? THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!I ONLY HAVE PITY FOR REAL AMERICANS THAT LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE BEEN SCREWED. F- AMERICA! I’M SICK!SEEKING A NEW FRONTIER!

Jose January 20, 2010 at 8:36 am

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