If You Teach And No One Learns, Did You Really Teach?

By Jose Vilson | March 19, 2017

If You Teach And No One Learns, Did You Really Teach?

By Jose Vilson | March 19, 2017
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This past week, my school had parent-teacher conferences. It’s like Christmas four times a year…

Sidenote: When I said this aloud to one of my classes, one of my students said “Doesn’t that mean you have Christmas five times a year including Christmas?” I responded, “Nah, because it’s not exactly Christmas, but it’s like Christmas, though.” He scratched his head and got back to work. He might be right, though.

… Anyways, I love these conferences. Contrary to popular belief, I love the idea of meeting parents face-to-face instead of through the phone. I love that I leave my door open for rolling appointments with members of this community. I love the nervousness from students beforehand, and the incessant question “What are you going to tell my parents?”

“Well,” I’d say, “If you do what you need to do during … nevermind. I’m gonna tell them you’re failing!”
“I’m not!”
Well, OK, then.

I love the long-ish day, starting out with warm feedback, flaunting my Spanish skills, and listening as I get insight for how parents talk to their children. I do wince when children get in trouble, but I smile when parents of my more successful students say, “Yeah, but we still got a ways to go.” I see you. I love telling parents how I’m working with them and their students to make sure they’re learning because they need to hear that.

Even when it looks opaque, I like to leave on a positive note. Teaching is tough, but parenting is harrowing.

On Thursday, for example, a parent informed me that she heard through the grapevine that little to no learning was taking place in my classroom. I hadn’t heard anything like that in my 12 years of teaching, so my face must have contorted some. Plus, her student had just earned a 90 on his report card. Her son then explained that it came from a parent whose student wasn’t doing well in my class. My first inclination was to defend my work. My second inclination was to pepper my student with questions about what we do in my class.

But, before I could even gather my thoughts, the parent said, “Well, I know you’re doing good work because my son actually likes math now and says good things about you.”

Well, alright. It gave me little relief, but it was enough for me to take time and reflect on this idea. When I first started teaching more than a decade ago, my elders would say, “If you’ve taught just one child, you’ve done a good job.” I understood the sentiment, but, because I’m stubborn, I’d wait until they left and said, “Hell nah!” I want to teach all the students. I need to get better at reaching all of the people. If I had a bad year, I’d sit there on the last day and say, “OK, how can I do that better?” If I had a great year, I’d sit there on the last day and say, “OK, how can I do that better?” I defy my own legacy constantly, but don’t stray too much from what makes my teaching part of me.

But, if I teach and the students don’t learn, did I really teach?

Sure, I went through the actions. I thought about the content. I developed the warm-up activity. I went through the motions of introducing the idea. I created questions for students to respond to and asked them at appropriate intervals. I prepared work for them to get practice within their groups and individually. I created a quiz aligned to everything I just said. Does any of it matter if I don’t have some way of determining that my signals reached them?

I want to say yes, but a deeper part of me can’t settle.

Which brings me back to the parent who gossiped to the other parents about what happens in my classroom. As a parent and teacher, I have two lenses both critical and understanding of the roles involved in our educational ecosystem. We should ask tough questions of each other and we should have ways of developing feedback for each other. Instead of discussing “bad” parents, “bad” students, and “bad” teachers, I prefer to discuss next steps that will make sure students get what they need. Perhaps I’m not the one to deliver that need, but I’ve found closure with the idea that not every student will learn with me.

Because I have more immediate control than a tree does, I’m hoping to change this observable reality with parents and students involved. We can’t let our students fall. Do we?

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  1. I feel the same way. I want all my students to learn! If any of them fail a test, I ask myself, “What could I have done better?” or “What other ways could I have introduced it so s/he could learn it?”

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  2. Dear Jose,

    First, the Christmas kid was right–but I’m sure your body language admitted as much. You love kids, and it shows.

    The rest of the post is a home run, encapsulating this glorious mess we call teaching. You make teachers feel legit–no mean feat.

    And thank you for that (along with the rest of your work).

    ~Michael

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      Christmas kid needs to go home, Mike.

      As for the legitness, I’m pretty sure your town is grateful for your presence as well. Thank you, sir.

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  4. Can I quote you, “But, if I teach and the students don’t learn, did I really teach?” I teach at the college level and I am so tired of ‘gatekeeper’ courses where a given per cent of students are expected to fail.

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  5. That question was brought up by a PD deliverer in my 2nd year.

    There’s something to it, but there are several ways to think about it beyond either/or.

    If students learn to follow procedures and answer test questions correctly, or even explain to a classmate how to do the same, it may not be that students habr come to appreciate the deeper learning.

    A student may not be able to transfer the knowledge or skill to a novel situation that I haven’t taught. In that case, did I really teach it (even though I taught what was needed, and it was learned in the context in which I taught it)?

    Levels…..

    Likewise a students who hasn’t mastered English could learn by watching and by following examples without following my use of language (what we normally think of as a large part of teaching is speaking). In that case, a student has learned without being “taught.”

    It’s a great question. I love thinking about it.

    Also, like you, I love parent teacher conferences.

    Great post.

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  6. “But, if I teach and the students don’t learn, did I really teach?”

    It’s an old but interesting question. I think, however, it lends itself to assigning credit or blame to someone. If you teach and the students learn what gets the credit? You? The students? Both? If you teach and the students don’t learn, what gets the blame? You? The students? What happens if you remove the pronoun “I” and rephrase your question?

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      That’s what I’m trying to tease out here. On the one end, I’d like to feel / hear what responsibility looks like and if it’s well placed. On the other, I also see how responsibility also means we may or may not be distributing its weight equitably. I rephrased the question like a billion times over and it feels like it’s going to be problematic regardless. We got work to do.

  7. “What would happen if I used teaching method ‘X’?”

    When I confronted an educational challenge with a student, attempted a few different ways to teach it, and then one way finally worked, it became apparent that the method was the variable that mattered.

    I think we go through the dance of assigning blame and credit to the wrong things. “He didn’t do well this semester because he didn’t apply himself,” “…struggles with this subject matter,” “… Isn’t developmentally ready for the task.” (Harder and softer ways of blaming the student). We are always doing our best to teach our students.

    When your best attempts failed, however, you were magnanimous in your evaluation and questioned whether you taught at all. You fell on your sword and avoided blaming your students for not learning. I don’t see many educators being as courageous and thoughtful in their assessment as you were in your very public article. It is our responsibility as educators to teach. But we can’t be all things for all people and I don’t think you should be blamed for that. We do, probably in many cases, hold the bag of not teaching when our students do not learn, but I think that putting the emphasis on the teaching methods used can keep us better focused on constructive problem solving.

  8. This reminds me of something long ago I overheard a teacher say. It was when I was a substitute, looking for a full time teaching position, putting in the legwork for 80 bucks a day hoping to get a look for a position at a school that would never materialize. What I overheard the teacher say is “They may not say they learned it, but I taught them!” Now, at the time I had virtually no teaching experience, save for the moments where one of the regular teachers there would request I cover his classes and let me teach what I want to his kids. But even then I thought that was odd.

    Fast forward about 12 years to where I am now. I think constant reflection is a useful tool in understanding yourself as a teacher. I’ve been overjoyed at the kids who got it, and been dismayed by the ones who don’t. Sure, there are the excuses, like you said. “They didn’t apply themselves.” “They don’t care.” (Which I don’t believe is true, they all care, just some levels of how much they care are lower than others). Even today, I felt after the lesson I gave that not all of them truly got it. Which forced me to think, ok, if they didn’t get it today, how can I make sure they will get it tomorrow? I think that’s all we can do, in order to try to reach all of them.

  9. As a student, I definitely see this. I have had teachers over the years that were so enthusiastic about teaching but did so poorly that we never learned anything. Having a teacher that knows the material is not the same as having a teachers that knows how to teach that material. Great post!

  10. This is a wonderful post about something that many educators often forget! As a college student and future educator, it is truly inspiring to see that not everyone dislikes those dreaded conferences! I am sure the parents of your students can tell that you care about their child’s education by how enthusiastic you are to meet them and share little tidbits about each student! I think your blog is wonderful and hope that you continue to write them and inspire future educators, like me, for a long time!

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